It is argued that there exist natural shell model spaces optimally adapted to the operation of two variants of Elliott SU3 symmetry that provide accurate predictions of quadrupole moments of deformed states. A selfconsistent Nilsson-like calculation describes the competition between the realistic quadrupole force and the central field, indicating a {em remarkable stability of the quadruplole moments}---which remain close to their quasi and pseudo SU3 values---as the single particle splittings increase. A detailed study of the $N=Z$ even nuclei from $^{56}$Ni to $^{96}$Cd reveals that the region of prolate deformation is bounded by a pair of transitional nuclei $^{72}$Kr and $^{84}$Mo in which prolate ground state bands are predicted to dominate, though coexisting with oblate ones,
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